On 28 November 2017 at 18:38, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 15:31, Raymond Hettinger <raymond.hettinger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Put me down for a strong -1. The proposal would occasionally save a few keystokes but comes at the expense of giving Python a more Perlish look and a more arcane feel.
>> I am also -1.
>>> One of the things I like about Python is that I can walk non-programmers through the code and explain what it does. The examples in PEP 505 look like a step in the wrong direction. They don't "look like Python" and make me feel like I have to decrypt the code to figure-out what it does.
>> I had occasional to speak with someone very involved in Rust development. They have a process roughly similar to our PEPs. One of the things he told me, which I found very interesting and have been mulling over for PEPs is, they require a section in their specification discussion how any new feature will be taught, both to new Rust programmers and experienced ones. I love the emphasis on teachability. Sometimes I really miss that when considering some of the PEPs and the features they introduce (look how hard it is to teach asynchronous programming).
Oh well,
I would be +1 on patching PEP 1 for that.
>> Cheers,
> -Barry
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